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Doris G. Brauman Moore, experienced Elder Law, Probate attorney in Brownsburg, IN with 2 reviews
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13 Jan, 2021 by William
The reason I am discontinuing a relationship with this attorney is their failure to communicate. They do not return phone calls and they do not respond to emails. I can not depend on some one that will not communicate.
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18 Apr, 2013 by Anonymous
Dori and her staff help my family so much as our father was ill. She guided us through the transition from the assisted living to the nursing home. With her help we were able to figure out how to manage the high costs of nursing home care for dad. I would recommend her to anyone needing help with asset protection or other elder law issues.
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Suzanne Norman Philbrick, experienced Elder Law, Family Law attorney in Chesterton, IN with 3 reviews
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13 Jun, 2023 by Danielle logan
She is the best, she takes time to make you understand. I like her.
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23 Aug, 2019 by Paulette j jacob
Introduced and she did what was needed
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19 Nov, 2017 by Justin mcmeans
Mehhhhhhhhhhhh go elsewhere
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Kyle Paul Sprunger, experienced Elder Law attorney in Bluffton, IN with 2 reviews
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18 Jan, 2025 by C weaver
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19 Dec, 2024 by Carissa studabaker
The Bluffton branch was very knowledgeable, helpful and courteous.
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David Vernon Bent, experienced Appeals, Civil Rights attorney in Mishawaka, IN with 10 reviews
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09 Nov, 2023 by Bill sniadecki
Great courtesy, fair, and respective Lawyer!
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21 Oct, 2023 by Mike trueax jr
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12 Sep, 2022 by Brenda snider
I have been a client for Gerald since the early 2000 and he has meet my every need! He’s very understanding knowledgeable and very patient. I would recommend anyone to him that’s looking for a good Lawyer…😊
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Adrienne Michelle Flannery, experienced Consumer Protection, Elder Law attorney in Lawrenceburg, IN with 1 reviews
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16 Apr, 2020 by Anonymous
Hired for Medicaid application,elder law. Was friendly and explained things well. Communication was an issue. Mistakes were made in calculations. Advised us to have a hearing for more spousal support, then abruptly quit the week before the hearing, leaving us with unanswered questions and no idea what to.do.
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Josh Richard Trockman, experienced Business, Elder Law attorney in Evansville, IN with 30 reviews
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30 May, 2024 by Justin blake
Making a living off of the misery of others.Medical bill from 2009 $1600 garnished wages in 2024 $3300.
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15 May, 2024 by Hannah ivana
Wish I could give 0 stars. It's a debt collections place so, clearly, they won't get many positive reviews. My personal experience for this though, is I have been paying for the past couple years every month on time, even early (even went in person a couple times and paid a month in advance and talked with them about advancing it). I got a letter threatening my work pay, and them monitoring my job status. I have proof in receipts they give from the office and online payments of it all, and so should they (hopefully). I found the lawyers name and emailed him stating I was worried if there was an issue and was confused as to why I received this, because I have kept up with everything needed, even months early. I also stated there was proof in the receipts I was given and is in their records, and also on the website. He then only responded that I haven't been doing the agreed upon terms and they will continue to monitor my job; he clearly didn't care to look into it. I know I have nothing to worry about since I've been paying what was agreed and will continue to, and have proof of it all. It was just so uncomfortable, not professional at all, and made me gather every proof I had just in case and I shouldn't have to do that. Reading other reviews, it seems intimidation is a key method for them.
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03 May, 2024 by Jessica arvin
Bunch of sharks that will do everything to take every last penny you have. They probably wouldn't bat an eye at taking their own grandmothers to court for everything they own.
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David Edward Lawson, experienced Elder Law, Probate attorney in Danville, IN with 11 reviews
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29 May, 2024 by Amber stetter
Truly the worst experience I've ever had. I temporarily lost custody of my oldest due to 100% HER negligence. My records show that I've called and emailed Sally 58 times. She's answered 3 times. She's VERY biased. Cannot help you in emergencies. Thankfully I have custody returned. Sally is not reliable at most. She's a judges daughter and just skirts by. BE EXTREMELY WARY.
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09 Nov, 2023 by Brittany mijangos
If I could leave a negative star review, I’d leave it a thousand times over. Sally was appointed as a guardian at litem, at my request for a GAL, due to the crystal clear parental alienation that was taking place in my custody case. Due to confidentiality, I will not get into the specifics of the case, but her performance in this case warrants a complaint with the Indiana Judicial Branch, which will be my next step, and hopefully an investigation into her performance as a GAL. Her lack of expertise in this field was overwhelming. She was so cocky, and arrogant, with nothing to back it up. The job of a Guardian at Litem is to be the voice of the children, and yet she didn’t even speak to the kids a couple of weeks before her report was due to the court. TWO WEEKS. Four months after she was appointed to our case. Every email I sent her, she never responded to. It wasn’t until my daughter, who I had been alienated from was having a medical surgery, and I was given one week notice, that she actually responded back to my email. Only to scold me in her response back because by reaching out her with my concern for this surgery, that apparently isn’t how things are done in a custody hearing??? And apparently it was my responsibility to email her again if she never responded back to my email…My daughter who I’ve been alienated from is having a difficult time with life right now and Sally had a DUTY, a RESPONSIBILITY to make sure she was doing her due diligence, and to see through the lies, but she did none of that. She made a judgement in her initial meetings with me and my husband and my ex and his wife, and once she picked a side, she did no further work to gain anymore information. I don’t know how this woman sleeps at night knowing how negligent she is in her job, and how that impacts CHILDREN and FAMILIES every single day.
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07 Aug, 2023 by Jen b
Worst experience I have ever had. Doesn't vet out any information. Just another way to bilk folks out of money when there are sensitive issues at hand. Office staff (Beth) is EXTREMELY RUDE AND HAS NO BUSINESS WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC. What a sham.
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Joseph B. Cioe Jr., experienced Elder Law, Probate attorney in Valparaiso, IN with 3 reviews
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08 Feb, 2024 by Anonymous
Mr. Cioe does not care or listen to what you ask for. He tries to play both sides, drawing out your case racking up your bill. If you voice your opinion, or say one thing that he don’t like he is extremely rude and tries to con you into something that you don’t want to do. Mr. Cioe was extremely two-faced, and will act like he’s loyal to you, but he’s friending the other party to try to drag things on. If you’re going through a divorce or child custody, please stay far away from him. I feel like this is not his specialty.
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31 Dec, 2009 by Anonymous
Mr. Cioe assisted me through the process of administering my parent's estate. To keep the expense low, I wanted to do as much of the work that I could myself. To help in this matter, Mr. Cioe to applied to the court for the probating of the estate to be "unsupervised". This meant that Mr. Cioe took care of presenting items in court when needed, prepared required legal documents, and advised me on proper process as I handled everything else. The cost in doing it in this manner was much lower than any of the other lawyers had quoted. And this was accomplished from afar, as I live several states away. We made extensive use of fax, email and phone as well as the Post Office. Mr. Cioe was always very patient when I called with my numerous questions. I would recommend him to others and use him again myself if a similar situation arises.
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24 Jul, 2009 by Anonymous
He was very expensive, so I thought the service would match. Not so. Additional costs kept adding in. There were things that he told us not to worry about then everything blew up and he tells the other party he didn't tell us not to act. BS.
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Martin A. McCloskey, experienced Civil Rights, Criminal Defense attorney in Elkhart, IN with 0 reviews
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Ryan D. Hatfield, experienced Business, Criminal Defense attorney in Evansville, IN with 0 reviews
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Bryan Nugen, experienced Elder Law, Estate Planning attorney in Auburn, IN with 0 reviews
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Kingsley G. Regnier, experienced Elder Law, Probate attorney in Valparaiso, IN with  reviews
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Steven Wayne Kincaid, experienced Elder Law, Estate Planning attorney in Noblesville, IN with 2 reviews
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29 Nov, 2022 by Anonymous
He will drag his feet as long as he can just to benifit his self will end up costing you a fortune
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19 Mar, 2020 by Audrey
I hired Mr Kincaid to help me with my mom who took my house using her POA, he did nothing, we had court but he didn't bring up anything defending me. One of the biggest mistakes was hiring him. He should not be a lawyer
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Anthony Glenn Novak, experienced Business, Elder Law attorney in La Porte, IN with 1 reviews
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29 Nov, 2020 by Anonymous
He told me to call the prison and tell them to change son's classification. Prisons dont answer to the public. Related to so called victim.
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Rachel Jean Luken, experienced Bankruptcy, Business attorney in South Bend, IN with 1 reviews
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26 Mar, 2022 by Kyle
Not recommended if you’re going to court for custody. Failed to appeal a protective order that would allow me to started my case in the court room, while trying to tell me we would need to subpoena police officers for the court date she failed to get set up. Would not listen to what I wanted to do in the case that would of allowed me to have custody of my son. Thank God I fired her and found a competent lawyer to get my custody rights.
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Gary Trent Banet, experienced Elder Law, Probate attorney in New Albany, IN with 1 reviews
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17 Sep, 2016 by Anonymous
Had one meeting with him. He emailed requesting different paperwork brought to him. After 2 months,of working with him mostly through emails he files to be excused from the case 7 days prior to court date (including a weekend). Paperwork said conflict of interest. Still not sure what he found after 2 months to suddenly drop my case. Needless to say he did not offer to refund money and did not return original copies brought to his office as of today's date. Simple mailed me paperwork of filing.
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Grace E. Dillow, experienced Criminal Defense, Divorce attorney in Shelbyville, IN with 0 reviews
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Michelle L. Hildebrand, experienced Bankruptcy, Divorce attorney in South Bend, IN with 0 reviews
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Natalie J. Boocher, experienced Elder Law, Estate Planning attorney in Royal Center, IN with 0 reviews
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Frances Lynn Ashton, experienced Elder Law attorney in Beech Grove, IN with 2 reviews
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18 Apr, 2017 by Sara
She completely screwed my husband over while "representing" him in a custody battle for my stepson. She did NOTHING, failed to inform him of hearings, failed to respond to his inquiries in regards to ANYTHING through the whole process. She even said before the final hearing, "You should pray." We are great parents and she ruined his chance of the custody he deserves. We didn't even receive the final order from her until MONTHS after, and that was only because we both bothered her incessantly until she finally sent all of his paperwork. We will definitely be filing a complaint of negligence to the IN Bar Association. She's worthless.
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12 Feb, 2017 by Anonymous
This lady shows up at your house looking like a bum, in a beat up cart. Takes your money, leaves you hanging for weeks to months getting buying accomplished. Then refuses to return your money when she had done nothing,and you request it back.
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Jerry Lee Siefers Jr., experienced Elder Law, Probate attorney in Bloomington, IN with 1 reviews
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26 May, 2015 by Laura
I called Jerry Siefers 4 times between January and March of 2015. We were really in a bind as we all live out of state and my mother in Indiana has alcoholic dementia and many other health issues related to alcoholism. We have been trying to get guardianship, or at least to get some legal questions answered. I was perfectly willing to pay Mr. Siefers for a consultation. I got no phone call back. Really disappointed.
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Melinda Hartzler Bundy, experienced Elder Law, Probate attorney in Brookville, IN with 1 reviews
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11 Sep, 2013 by Michele
Felt as if Melinda Bundy was not listening to my needs, Did not keep me informed, Confused my file/case with another client, Did not follow through, was not knowledgeable, and Caused undue stress and hardship to me by withdrawing herself as my attorney just before a hearing.
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Jennifer Jeanne Hammond, experienced Elder Law, Probate attorney in Indianapolis, IN with 1 reviews
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01 Aug, 2022 by Anonymous
You’re better off representing yourself than making the costly mistake of hiring Jennifer Hammond.
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Herb D. Witham, experienced Appeals, Civil Rights attorney in Danville, IN with 1 reviews
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29 Sep, 2020 by Anonymous
Herb is a very shaddy lawyer. He doesnt listen to clients. He will not stand up for you even if you are innocent. Herb is the last person you would want representing you and is very condescending. He will tell you what you want to hear then throw you to the wolves come crunch time. He's also part of the good ole boy program in Hendrix Co.
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Denise Kaye Connell, experienced Business, Elder Law attorney in Seymour, IN with 1 reviews
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22 Sep, 2016 by Anonymous
Extremely slow. Does not return phone calls at all. Her assistant sometimes returns calls when the mood strikes, but is in no hurry to do so. I cannot recommend this attorney and regret hiring her.
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John Paul Cook, experienced Elder Law attorney in Franklin, IN with 2 reviews
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08 Jan, 2024 by Nicole sweets
Worst attorney ever! Tracy is a bully and has a pitbull assistant, Angela. My mom used her and she took advantage of my mom. Sickening
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23 Apr, 2023 by Karen loewen
Terrible experience with my divorce with Tracy Reeves. Having her represent me cost me thousands of dollars. After 37 years of marriage, walked away with practically nothing. Not half of the sale of a house, retirement, or cash , it was pretty shocking. I realized when I went to mediation, it was already resolved and I had no input. If you’re getting a divorce in Franklin, hire an attorney from outside of the area. I really trusted her, that’s what is most difficult.
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Cynthia Ann Bedrick, experienced Business, Elder Law attorney in Shelbyville, IN with 0 reviews
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Jennifer Jean Hawkins, experienced Elder Law, Estate Planning attorney in Sullivan, IN with 0 reviews
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Dwight Andrew Nestrick, experienced Elder Law, Probate attorney in Evansville, IN with 0 reviews
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What an Elder Law Lawyer Can Do for You

An elder law lawyer specializes in legal issues that affect older adults, their families, and caregivers. These lawyers handle a broad range of topics, including estate planning, Medicaid and Medicare, long-term care planning, guardianship, elder abuse, and retirement planning. The goal of an elder law lawyer is to protect the rights, finances, and well-being of elderly individuals and to help them plan for future healthcare and financial security.

If you or a loved one is aging and facing challenges related to healthcare, finances, or legal matters, an elder law lawyer can provide essential guidance to protect your rights and interests as you age.

When Should I Hire an Elder Law Lawyer?

Hiring an elder law lawyer can be beneficial in many situations where older adults need help with legal, financial, or healthcare-related decisions. Common reasons to hire an elder law lawyer include:

  • Estate planning: If you want to create or update a will, set up trusts, or ensure that your assets are distributed according to your wishes, an elder law lawyer can help with comprehensive estate planning.
  • Medicaid and Medicare planning: If you need help qualifying for Medicaid to cover long-term care or need advice on navigating Medicare benefits, a lawyer can guide you through the application process and protect your assets.
  • Long-term care planning: If you’re concerned about paying for nursing home care or assisted living, a lawyer can help you create a financial plan and explore options for government assistance.
  • Guardianship or conservatorship: If a family member is unable to make decisions due to age-related cognitive issues, an elder law lawyer can assist in setting up legal guardianship or conservatorship to ensure their care.
  • Elder abuse and exploitation: If you or a loved one is experiencing physical, emotional, or financial abuse, an elder law lawyer can help you take legal action to stop the abuse and recover damages.
  • Retirement planning: Elder law lawyers can assist with planning for retirement, including managing pensions, Social Security, and other retirement income.
  • Special needs planning: If you have a disabled family member who requires special care, an elder law lawyer can help create trusts or other legal arrangements to ensure their long-term financial and healthcare needs are met.

What Does an Elder Law Lawyer Do?

An elder law lawyer provides a wide range of legal services to help older adults and their families navigate the complexities of aging, healthcare, and estate planning. Their responsibilities often include:

  • Drafting wills and trusts: Creating legal documents that outline how an individual’s assets will be distributed after death, ensuring that their wishes are honored.
  • Medicaid and Medicare planning: Helping clients protect their assets while qualifying for government benefits to cover healthcare and long-term care costs.
  • Establishing guardianships: Assisting families in setting up guardianship or conservatorship for loved ones who are unable to make decisions due to mental or physical incapacity.
  • Protecting against elder abuse: Investigating claims of elder abuse or financial exploitation and representing the victim in legal actions to stop the abuse and seek compensation.
  • Planning for long-term care: Developing strategies to cover the costs of nursing homes, assisted living, and other long-term care options without exhausting the elder’s financial resources.
  • Managing probate and estate administration: Guiding families through the probate process to ensure that the decedent’s assets are distributed according to the law and their wishes.
  • Setting up advance directives: Helping clients establish healthcare directives and powers of attorney to ensure their medical and financial decisions are carried out if they become incapacitated.

How Are Elder Law Lawyers Paid?

Elder law lawyers typically charge for their services based on the complexity of the case and the type of legal work involved. Common payment structures include:

  • Hourly rate: Many elder law lawyers charge by the hour, especially for tasks such as drafting documents, handling legal disputes, or providing ongoing legal advice. Hourly rates typically range from $150 to $500 or more, depending on the lawyer’s experience and location.
  • Flat fee: For specific tasks, such as drafting a will or setting up a trust, some lawyers charge a flat fee. This can range from $500 to $5,000 or more, depending on the complexity of the estate plan.
  • Retainer: For long-term legal representation, such as managing a trust or handling guardianship matters, a lawyer may charge a retainer, which is an upfront payment that covers future legal work.
  • Contingency fee: In some elder abuse or financial exploitation cases, a lawyer may work on a contingency fee basis, meaning they only get paid if they recover compensation for the client. This fee is typically a percentage of the settlement or damages awarded.

Be sure to discuss fees with your lawyer during the initial consultation to understand how you will be billed and what the total cost of services might be.

How Much Does an Elder Law Lawyer Cost?

The cost of hiring an elder law lawyer varies depending on the complexity of the case, the lawyer’s experience, and the fee structure. General cost estimates include:

  • Simple estate planning: Drafting basic documents, such as a will or power of attorney, may cost between $500 and $2,000, depending on the complexity of the client’s assets and wishes.
  • Complex estate planning: Setting up more advanced estate plans, such as revocable or irrevocable trusts, Medicaid planning, or special needs trusts, can range from $2,000 to $10,000 or more.
  • Guardianship or conservatorship: Legal fees for setting up guardianship or conservatorship often range from $2,000 to $5,000 or more, depending on the complexity of the case and whether disputes arise.
  • Medicaid planning: Legal fees for Medicaid planning can range from $1,500 to $10,000, depending on the level of asset protection needed and the complexity of the individual’s financial situation.

Always ask for an estimate of fees during your initial consultation to ensure you understand how much the legal services will cost.

Top Questions to Ask an Elder Law Lawyer

Before hiring an elder law lawyer, it’s important to ask the right questions to ensure they have the experience and expertise needed to handle your case. Key questions to ask include:

  1. What experience do you have with elder law cases?
    Make sure the lawyer has experience handling cases similar to yours, whether it's estate planning, Medicaid applications, or elder abuse claims.
  2. How do you charge for your services?
    Clarify whether the lawyer charges by the hour, a flat fee, or a retainer, and ask for a detailed estimate of the total cost.
  3. What is the best approach for my case?
    Ask for an honest assessment of your situation and what legal strategies the lawyer recommends.
  4. How long will the process take?
    Whether it’s drafting an estate plan or setting up a guardianship, ask the lawyer how long they expect the process to take.
  5. Will you handle my case personally?
    In larger firms, junior attorneys or paralegals may handle parts of the case. Make sure you know who will be working on your case directly.
  6. What documents should I bring to the consultation?
    Ask the lawyer what documentation or information you should prepare for your consultation, such as medical records, financial statements, or prior legal documents.

How to Check the Credibility of an Elder Law Lawyer

To ensure you are hiring a reputable elder law lawyer, follow these steps to verify their credentials and experience:

  • Check their bar status: Verify with your state bar association that the lawyer is licensed to practice and has no history of disciplinary actions.
  • Look for elder law experience: Review the lawyer’s website or professional profile to ensure they specialize in elder law and have experience with cases similar to yours.
  • Read client reviews and testimonials: Look for client reviews on platforms like Avvo, Martindale-Hubbell, or Google to see what previous clients have said about the lawyer’s professionalism and success rate.
  • Ask for references: A credible lawyer should be able to provide references from past clients who have worked with them on elder law issues.
  • Check for certifications: Look for certifications or affiliations with organizations such as the National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys (NAELA), which can indicate the lawyer’s dedication to elder law.

What Should I Prepare for My First Consultation?

To get the most out of your first consultation with an elder law lawyer, it’s important to come prepared with relevant documents and information. Here’s what you should bring:

  • Existing estate planning documents: If you have a will, trust, or power of attorney in place, bring copies for the lawyer to review.
  • Financial records: Provide details of your assets, including bank accounts, investments, real estate, and retirement accounts, as well as any debts.
  • Medical information: If the case involves guardianship or Medicaid planning, bring relevant medical records that detail the individual's health condition and care needs.
  • Insurance policies: Bring information about health insurance, long-term care insurance, and any other relevant policies.
  • Questions for the lawyer: Write down any questions you have about your legal needs, the process, and the lawyer’s fees.
  • List of family members or beneficiaries: Prepare a list of the individuals you want to include in your estate plan or who will be affected by the legal process.

By preparing thoroughly for your consultation, you can help the lawyer assess your situation more effectively and receive the best legal advice tailored to your needs.

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